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Residual City's avatar

I really appreciated this article, particularly how you emphasized disassociation and agency. This piece gave me words and concepts for what I have also been asking questions about / struggling with as I think with machines. Where my thinking ends and AI begins is becoming increasingly difficult to parse the more I use it, and I don't yet feel moored by a clear ethical framework to navigate this. I’m still unsure whether we’re treating AI with undue exceptionalism, or whether something genuinely distinct and urgent is happening now. One thing I hadn’t yet thought about was how you emphasized AI is situated within a longer history of deskilling and compartmentalization; Marx’s contributions on alienation and Ander’s ideas around promethean shame and human/technological obsolescence came to mind for me here. I completely agree that professional subjectivities are in need of “repair” and am trying to explore this more fully as a community planning professional myself.

I found myself particularly engaged by your description of technology’s “obscureness” and the role it plays in what I think you are describing as social and ecological injustices. I think you touch on two distinct modes of obscureness – cognitive and political.

Speaking to the cognitive, I appreciate your point about how the status quo of technological design further separates us from each other, material life and nature, but I question if there is not always something that can never be fully “known” between humans and non-humans. I question if we can ever escape some degree of unknowing or achieve total transparency; I suspect our technological practises will always have an element of this. Notably, humans already live with internal, non-conscious, non-transparent intelligences (e.g. the unconscious mind is critical to habit formation and learning consolidation) and yet the human mind can nevertheless persist as an integrated agent. Relatedly, I think part of what is so seductive about thinking with machines is its offer of what feels like coherence, which is at once intimate and unsettling. And this is, as you note, ripe grounds for monetization and exploitation by capitalist interests, with profound consequences for our mental health.

The larger problem for me, and something you touch on in reference to social media coercion, the material conditions of technological production, and data weaponisation, is one of political economy. We are not only disassociated from each other, material life and nature, but also from agency over who builds, owns, profits from, and imposes these machines. Addressing this is in the realm of ethics and governance. Your piece left me asking myself - if, in theory, it was possible to think with machines in an undeniably ethical and democratically governed way, what risks would remain?

Thank you for such a thoughtful and challenging piece—I’m grateful for how much it’s given me to sit with.

Dances for Cats's avatar

Thanks for shining your light, Eleni. I take such comfort that there are minds and hearts such as yours - it gives me the strength I need to add my voice to the resistance, especially on days where it feels like we're trying to sweep the tide back with a broom.

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